How to display exactly 2^64?

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越琪 吴
越琪 吴 am 7 Okt. 2020
Bearbeitet: Stephen23 am 12 Okt. 2020
I want to display 2^64 exactly as 18446744073709551615, without e. Without using vpa(), how can I display18446744073709551615?
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks a lot!
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Stephen23
Stephen23 am 7 Okt. 2020
"2^64 exactly as 18446744073709551615"
2^64 is actually 18446744073709551616, not 18446744073709551615.

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Ameer Hamza
Ameer Hamza am 7 Okt. 2020
Bearbeitet: Ameer Hamza am 7 Okt. 2020
First, 2^64 is not exactly 18446744073709551615. It is 18446744073709551616. 2 to any power cannot be an odd number.
Second, this number is beyond flintmax so the number near it, e.g., 2^64-1 cannot be exactly represented using double-precision floating-point. Even for uint64, the maximum value is 2^64-1. The other option is to use a variable precision library, i.e., vpa() or symbolic arithmetic.
If you don't want to use the symbolic toolbox, then download this big decimal library from here: https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/36534-hpf-a-big-decimal-class. It works perfectly for variable precision mathematics.
x = hpf(2);
y = x^64
Result
y =
18446744073709551616
Some inaccurate statements were fixed as pointed out in Stephen's comment: https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/606841-how-to-display-exactly-2-64#comment_1041516
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越琪 吴
越琪 吴 am 7 Okt. 2020
Thank you very much! This is exactly what I want!
John D'Errico
John D'Errico am 7 Okt. 2020
Bearbeitet: John D'Errico am 7 Okt. 2020
Better, if you wanted to create arbitrarily high precision INTEGERS, is to use VPI. HPF is fine, except that you will need to define how many digits to use, whereas VPI has no explicit limit on the number of digitis except those induced by the available memory. HPF essentially uses a fixed number of decimal digits, although that number will be set by the user.
But since the request is to not need any external library to represent the number, both VPI and HPF fail that goal. One other option is to use java.
java.math.BigInteger.pow(java.math.BigInteger(2),64)
ans = 18446744073709551616
Or even seriously higher powers can be computed now.
java.math.BigInteger.pow(java.math.BigInteger(2),1024)
ans = 179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805500963132708477322407536021120113879871393357658789768814416622492847430639474124377767893424865485276302219601246094119453082952085005768838150682342462881473913110540827237163350510684586298239947245938479716304835356329624224137216
In fact 2^1024 is just a small number in terms of the abilities of the java.math.BigInteger tools. I've used that tool to work with numbers with hundreds of thousands of digits, and that barely scratches the surface in terms of capability. For example, while I won't display it, 2^1e8 takes only a tiny fraction of a second to compute, and that is a pretty big integer.
tic,x=java.math.BigInteger.pow(java.math.BigInteger(2),100000000);toc
Elapsed time is 0.002492 seconds.
And Java is sort of already included with MATLAB. Except that it will one day go away, something we know lies in the future. But for now, the BigInteger solution is perfectly valid.

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KSSV
KSSV am 7 Okt. 2020
val = 2^64 ;
fprintf("%f\n",val)
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Stephen23
Stephen23 am 7 Okt. 2020
Bearbeitet: Stephen23 am 7 Okt. 2020
Does not display the correct value on R2012b:
>> fprintf('%f\n',2^64)
18446744073709552000.000000
>> fprintf('%.f\n',2^64)
18446744073709552000
Or R2015b:
>> fprintf('%f\n',2^64)
18446744073709552000.000000
>> fprintf('%.f\n',2^64)
18446744073709552000
Bruno Luong
Bruno Luong am 7 Okt. 2020
Bearbeitet: Bruno Luong am 7 Okt. 2020
Same question with Walter regexp "why 53 bit precision won't play a role?"
And why this give wrong answer
>> val = 2^64 - 1;
>> fprintf("%.f\n",val-1)
18446744073709551616

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Bruno Luong
Bruno Luong am 7 Okt. 2020
Bearbeitet: Bruno Luong am 7 Okt. 2020
They teach me this when I was kid
% Raise to power 2^64
d=1;
for p=1:64
r=0;
for i=length(d):-1:1
a=2*d(i)+r;
r=floor(a/10);
d(i)=a-r*10;
end
if r>0
d = [r d];
end
end
% substract b (==1 here) to d=2^64
s = [1];
sp = [zeros(1,length(d)-length(s)) s];
r=0;
for i=length(d):-1:1
a=d(i)+r-sp(i);
r=floor(a/10);
d(i)=a-r*10;
end
if r<0
error('overflow (b>d)');
end
d = char(d+'0');
fprintf('%s\n', d)

Walter Roberson
Walter Roberson am 7 Okt. 2020
regexprep(sprintf('%.19lu\n', 2^64), {'\.', 'e.*$'}, {'', ''})
ans = '18446744073709551616'
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Ameer Hamza
Ameer Hamza am 7 Okt. 2020
Thanks for pointing out, the statement was ambiguous. I have updated the comment.
Bruno Luong
Bruno Luong am 7 Okt. 2020
Bearbeitet: Bruno Luong am 7 Okt. 2020
Still not accurate: 3*2^1000 is exactly represented by double/single, it's not power of two either.

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