about gradient and diff

The help of my matlab says: (in article "gradient -Gradient vector of scalar function")
-If x is a scalar, gradient(f,x) = diff(f, x).
This is wrong, right?
diff(f,2) should = diff( diff(f) ) % means 2nd order diff
while gradient (f, 2) means the grid increment is 2. which means, for a curve f-t, or f(t), t is a linear space and dt = t(2)-t(1) = 2
Let me know everybody~ Thanks~

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Matt J
Matt J am 15 Jun. 2013
Which gradient() and diff() methods are you referring to? The ones in the Symbolic Toolbox?
Image Analyst
Image Analyst am 15 Jun. 2013
For base MATLAB, the help says this:
"Y = diff(X,n) applies diff recursively n times,resulting in the nth difference. Thus, diff(X,2) isthe same as diff(diff(X))."
Yuji Zhang
Yuji Zhang am 15 Jun. 2013
Hi folks,
Thanks for discussion.
There are actually two different gradient functions - see Walter's answer.
Image Analyst
Image Analyst am 15 Jun. 2013
How do you tell your code which one to use?
Yuji Zhang
Yuji Zhang am 15 Jun. 2013
Bearbeitet: Yuji Zhang am 15 Jun. 2013
I think, if your input y is a symbolic function, like y = x^2, then gradient(y) is symbolic gradient.
If the y is a numerical curve, like y = [1 2 3 4 ....]; then gradient(y) is the numerical gradient.

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Walter Roberson
Walter Roberson am 15 Jun. 2013

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Symbolic gradient, http://www.mathworks.com/help/symbolic/gradient.html, is the gradient vector of a scalar function, but numeric gradient, http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/gradient.html is just "Numerical gradient". It is numerical gradient for which the "2" would mean a point spacing of 2, and it is the symbolic gradient for which the "2" would mean double differentiation.

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Yuji Zhang
Yuji Zhang am 15 Jun. 2013
Hi Walter~
Nice explanation! Thank you so much! I didn't know there were two different gradient functions. Yea, I see - makes sense. These two gradient functions are in different contexts.
Thanks again~

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